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Understanding King Gizzard’s Microtonal Music

Lie Likes Music | April 3, 2024
Understanding King Gizzard's Microtonal Music


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  1. @patrickbateman3146

    April 3, 2024 at 7:46 pm

    Microtonal western music is older than Parch. It goes all the way back to Ancient Rome and Greece, which likely goes back even further, back to Mesopotamia. But it has existed in Western Europe for thousands of years.

  2. @Nonononono_Ohno

    April 3, 2024 at 7:46 pm

    What I'm missing in this kind of "microtonal music" aren't the microtones. They're there, obviously.

    What I do miss in this expression is the music part. Almost everyone fiddling with microtones uses them as an addon to 12edo music, like putting some exotic spice into an otherwise rather ordinary dish. I'd count King Gizzard into this group.

    In contrast, only few people compose pieces that actually "live" in a non-12edo tonal system, making use of the non-12edo intervals in such a way that the music doesn't sound like spiced up 12edo music, but like true non-12edo. Such music can sound like it's from another galaxy.

    What's exceptionally rare in non-12edo music though is what every good composer actually ought to be able to do: Modulate through the whole tonal system, going from any key to any other, random key in a pleasant way. Key changes are what brings music really to life and makes it exciting. Of course this demands a quite thorough understanding of the tonal system a piece is written in. Currently, there are only very few composers out there who fit into this group.

    I'm hoping that some day, it will be more.

  3. @georgen43

    April 3, 2024 at 7:46 pm

    This was an interesting video, but as a musician actually practicing traditional and classical eastern microtonal music, I feel like a huge part is missing.
    The whole point of maqam is not breaking existing intonation into more pieces, but using the natural scales that emanate from the first few harmonics of your base note. Just intonation is a western invention (and a very useful one), that made symphonic music, western harmony and many more possible, but the natural scales existed before that.
    There are also many different intonation systems, some sounding more "just" and some sounding more "wrong". In many cases, when playing a fretless instrument, the actual interpretation of a specific note depends on so many things, like personal style and the player's mood.
    Someone with a solid understanding of maqam might had been a much better consultant for your research than anyone with a degree in western harmony.
    However, being bitter is not the point here, so I suggest to anyone interested the best book that I know of existing on an English translation for Turkish classical music. , and I will also suggest some bands that are experimenting with fusion/modern approach to traditional sounds. (Don't forget, there is a whole musical world behind these 😅😅) (Laço Tayfa, Hudna,Ibrahim Maalouf, New York Gupsy All Stars are some examples)

  4. @draganapasti_

    April 3, 2024 at 7:46 pm

    Microtonal instruments are so impressive producing those captivating low & slow vibrating frequencies. Microtonality is wondrous as opens up space for endless explorations, experimentations & unexpected fusion of so many different styles. It’s a core of Gizzard’s creativity. Sounds so revolutionary. 🎸 🎹 🎷

  5. @enijize1234

    April 3, 2024 at 7:46 pm

    4:40 I see your "no note between A# & B" (on a 12-tet guitar) and raise you with a Gm Pentatonic with a 1/4 tone "hick bend" common in country and blues. -My dude Ry Cooder plays a lot of hick micro's. Play a 1/4 tone bend or get a slide and bounce your M or m third off the 1/4 step and sound like a 'real blues man'.
    Once you start milking these 1/4 tones on the third it becomes addictive to bounce them off all the degrees in your chosen mode.

  6. @MsVrotebal

    April 3, 2024 at 7:46 pm

    this microtones just sound like sht. there is nothing innovative in missing notes or taking wrong ones. we use 12notes for a reason actually- we dont want to sound like a dogfart

  7. @TheIgnoramus

    April 3, 2024 at 7:46 pm

    One thing so would like to add, is that these microtones are not ones based off of “true” tuning per intervals, only equal, unlike a lot of eastern music. On Sitar for example, they can adjust intonation extremely accurately.

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